User talk:Arch-Mage Matt/Archivity

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WelcomeEdit

Hello Arch-Mage Matt! Welcome to the wiki. I hope you enjoy using the site and find the information on it useful. If you decide you want to help improve any of our pages, we're always welcoming to new editors so feel free. You might want to look at our Getting Started page for some tips on how to begin, then play in our Sandbox for a while to practice. If you need any help or advice, please ask one of our mentors. Enjoy! –Eshe^talk 21:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

High-Agression NPCsEdit

Hi there! I saw your message on rpeh's page and thought I would give you some feedback on your sandbox article.

First of all, I'm not sure such a page would be considered useful by most users, but that's for the community to decide. Any NPC will attack you if their disposition toward you is lower than their aggression, while NPCs with an aggression of 100 will attack you on sight anyway. Second, why list every NPC with an aggression greater than 6? It seems like a random guideline, and you'll end up with basically a list of every NPC in the game. Like I said, any NPC will attack you when their disposition gets too low, so a page listing them all seems a little redundant.

If anything, we could consider adding a category for "hostile" NPCs who attack the player on sight, but I'm not sure that's necessary either, since those NPCs are sort of designed to be hard to avoid.

I appreciate your interest in improving the site, but I'm not sure if this article will be worth your time and effort. You might consider taking a look at our task list or one of our several project pages for other ways you can help out :). –Eshe^talk 22:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Eshe. I also hate to say it, but we could generate such a page in just a few seconds by grabbing data direct from the game files. The Task List is a good place to get ideas, so see if there's anything that takes your fancy. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 04:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

HiEdit

Hey man, I see that you have not done Umbaccano's quests. You get a lot of money if you do them and the Statues locations are right here on the Wiki. Just thought I would make conversation since you seem to want to talk to someone lol --Kri-Dar 16:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Yea I will eventually get around to it, but I play on the xbox so i would have to write the locations and direstions down... a little too much work. On another note, why do you think I want to talk to someone? (confused)--Arch-Mage Matt 00:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I think you want to talk to someone because you have two parts on your User Page saying people should talk to you. Don't take it to heart I am just guessing, you might not want to talk to anyone (except yourself but thats ok lol). If you have a printer then you can just print out the wiki page that has the locations and names of the ruins. I did it by myself without directions and had a lot of fun doing it but thats just me and Oblivion Addiction (everyone has some level of it trust me :D) --Kri-Dar 11:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I think you're over-reading my userpage, I just know alot about oblivion. But I think I will try it with one of my charecters.--Arch-Mage Matt 13:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Corevette789's responseEdit

I think the player, but if not him then M'aiq the Liar because of his infinite knowledge of everything.--Corevette789 03:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay guys stop it there, this is not a forum, for that you are free to use the official forum, where it is more appropriate to make this kind of posts. I have been watching this theead for a few weeks now, and I haven't said anything because it wasn't much of a problem, but I'm afraid that if I don't say anything now this could keep going, so please leave it there. --S'drassa ^•T2M 04:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Ooooookay... I thought this was just a personal thing... Sorry... --Arch-Mage Matt 01:39, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

In need of characters?Edit

Okay. New bounty hunter.

Mathius. (29, male Imperial Rogue)

Won't give out his last name because he's hiding from the law. He's a former DB member with good assassination skills and experience. Eventually changed his ways and tried to become a normal citizen, but he can't ever show his face to any guards. Likes to use nightshade to kill victims. Won't like the brash Orc in the party too much.

New mark:

The Adoring Fan. (Stalking, trespassing, consorting with criminals)

That's good! But I'm afraid I can't put The Adoring Fan in the story, but I could referance an annoying elf, and you could imagine it was him... . I don't know if Mathius will be the new "K'haz" but I already am imagining a place for him in the story, a pretty good role... wait for my story to find out what.--Arch-Mage Matt 20:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

UESPWiki:SandboxEdit

Just FYI, the UESPWiki:Sandbox page is for everybody to do test edits in if they wish, they don't have to create their own sandbox. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 00:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I realize that now... I feel like a total (donkey)--Arch-Mage Matt 01:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

LOL! No worries, having just made a (donkey) out of myself on one of the Arena pages, I have sympathy. :) ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 03:11, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

DFTTEdit

I see you commented to superblood. As rpeh said Don't Feed The Troll (or DFTT) I did the same thing so really there is no harm done but if you stop talking to him he will give up...or fire maybe.--^Corevette₇₈₉ 00:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry, missed that.--Arch-Mage Matt 01:17, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh don't worry its no big deal, he is threatening to call the police and filling up the RC page. I am kinda wanting to protect the rest of that page:)--^Corevette₇₈₉ 01:19, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you still need characters ?Edit

If so I have one you can use as an ally.--TheAlbinoOrc 20:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

It's not too late until the story is done, so fire away!--Arch-Mage Matt 20:16, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Name: Sha'Jakar

Race: Khajiit

Gender: Male

Special Weapon(s)/Armor: None

Sha'Jakar has recently moved from Vvardenfell to Cyrodiil, he owns a set of ebony armor (minus helm, includes towershield) and wields a daedric wakizashi, and is usually friendly.--TheAlbinoOrc 21:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

That'll do good... I can't think of anything at the moment of typing this, but he will appear in S'arad's Revenge.

Hi i wasn't really sure where else to put this but do you need characters for any of your thingys?--GUM!!! 21:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

'Thingys' are fanfiction, or fanfics. And yeah, I do, thanks. I would put him/her in this fanfic, though. --Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 01:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

ok if you want to use them there is some info on them it's on my sand box--GUM!!! 01:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Nice but could you come up with a name other than GUM for your Argonian? Either a real name (Amusei) or a nickname (Hides-His-Heart) Thanks! --Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 01:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

ok how about Runs-His-Nose?oh and could you mabye put the name GUM in at least once? like mabye something like "my names GUM but you can just call me Runs-His-Nose"?--GUM!!! 01:31, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

So do you have any Ideas on what he'd do? The party of heros will go to skingrad to try to save the Count. Any Ideas on how he could help that along? --Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 01:37, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

hmm...mabye he could help them defeit a party of....something...or something else i don't really have a prefrence. but rember he's good(i may be able come up with a couple more ideas later...oh and tell me when your fanfic is done)--GUM!!! 01:45, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Minatours, might work. Also do you have anyone capable of producing good potions with either side right now ?--TheAlbinoOrc 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

hey AMM there's some more info on my characters now(and I'm updating regularly)--GUM!!! 15:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Blank LinesEdit

Instead of using blank lines on your user page, which only fix the problem for certain window widths, try using {{NewLine}} (just one) after the userboxes, which will make them appear correctly for everybody. For example:

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{{Userbox|#301|#481|[[image:OB-place-Mages Guild Anvil.jpg|45px]]|info-fc=#5|This user thinks Userboxes are the ultimate way to express yourself.}}
{{NewLine}}

== UESPian Userboxes ==
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‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 07:19, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!--Arch-Mage Matt 15:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Patroller NominationEdit

Actually relating to postEdit

Just as a side-note to your Patroller nomination, don't take the unanimous (so far) Oppose votes too hard. Several people who are currently Patrollers, including two of our most-active Patrollers, were opposed at first but encouraged to try again later, and I think you're probably in that boat as well. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 16:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Definitely. From my point of view it's a case of "Not yet" rather than "no". rpeh •T•C•E• 16:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. It just means try harder, right? (Because of a "slight" competitive trait in me I'm not going anywhere soon!)--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 19:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I was opposed the first time 'round - and you just have to keep going! Btw, I have noticed that you have added a lot of smaller "notes" to NPC pages - why not go all the way and join the fun on the ONPCRP? I'll be glad to help you get started. --Krusty 19:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

ONPCRPEdit

Sure! So... just add my name to the list, and edit away, or is there anything super-specific I need to know?--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 19:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Basically, yes! I would advise that you take some time and read some of the existing finished pages to get a sense of the style we're looking for. You don't have to write everything either - that's why I split up the template into sections. If you want to concentrate on inventories or spells, you can. rpeh •T•C•E• 19:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you have access to the CS?--^Corevette₇₈₉ 19:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

No, I play on XBOX360 with limited (but not no) access to the PC but I could still do quest involvment, diolouge and rumors, services, and other, right? Although I have a question, how do you remove an NPC from a category? Because I was scrolling through and The Bosmer Thief is in Diolouge unchecked even though he is dead. (Dead NPCS, if you resurrect them, just offer rumors, in anything.)--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 19:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Well you probably saw my edit storm 2 days ago. Just link yourself and put N/A. Oh and adding (In-Game) for the checkers would be a good idea too. I mostly play on the Xbox so I have been doing services and on a rare occasion a house or two.--^Corevette₇₈₉ 19:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Haha, I remember your edit storm, one minite we were tied on the active user page, the next you were 14 users ahead of me! But my question continues; see above post.

Well, to answer your question - he will (and should) be part of that category and it doesn't matter if he is alive or not. When some in-gamer or CS'er have written the N/A thing - and another in-gamer and CS'er marks it as "checked" he will disappear from the Category automatically. That is basically how the project works. --Krusty 20:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but culd you explain that more simply? (really sorry)--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 20:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

It is actually easier if you look at some of the pages. If you open up the ONPCRP tag on this page you will see, that I wrote a lot of stuff in-game. After I filled out the tag with "Schedule written by Krusty (in-game)", the page disappeared from the "Schedule-Not-Written" category - and joined the "Schedule-Written"category. After SerCenKing added the "Schedule checked by SerCenKing (CS)", the page disappeared from the "Schedule-Unchecked" Category and joined the "Schedule-Checked" category. That is how the tag works. Only when all the categories have been written and checked will the ONPCRP tag disappear from the page. --Krusty 23:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Errors (of my own)Edit

Matt, perhaps while you're still getting to grips with the style and method of the project, you should use a sandbox to show us what you have in mind? It can be a bit daunting at first but if you sandbox your proposed edits then people like Krusty, SerCenKing, GK and I can tell us what we think before you make them Live? rpeh •T•C•E• 23:20, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I get it now, we'll see.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 23:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Just wanted to point out, the "written" and "checked" portions of the tag should always be done by two different people. That makes sure that any errors or mistakes are caught. --GK^talk2me 23:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thats what I'm doing in the quests unchecked isn't it?--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 00:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Here, you added the lines |quests=[[User:Arch-Mage Matt|Arch-Mage Matt]] (He is not involved in any directly) and |questsChecked=[[User:Arch-Mage Matt|Arch-Mage Matt]] (in-game) to the OBNPCRP tag. Those should be done by two separate people. --GK^talk2me 00:03, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I just copied and pasted something from another page and i guess didn't get it. Sorry.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 00:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to say this, Matt - but it is still wrong. You see, you can't do in-game check of something that was written in-game. Things written in-game has to be checked by the CS - and vice versa. So, if you want to do the quest checking - look through all the quests-written NPCs and find something written from the CS - THEN you can do the checking in-game. The other edits wil have to be reverted. Sorry, 'bout that. --Krusty 00:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh... well then. Sorry--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 00:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

So I should undo all of my edits?--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 00:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm sorry that I didn't inform you - how could you know about the CS/in-game procedure? Yeah, you should probably undo the edits for now. BUT, it is a pretty easy (but equally important) task to find NPCs with no quest-relation and write the quest info - on the tag, just write |quests=[[User:Arch-Mage Matt|Arch-Mage Matt]] (in-game) (N/A (no quests)

And - ALWAYS remember to check if everything is okay on the tag after saving. Good luck! --Krusty 00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Any edits you've made checking something that was written in-game should be reverted. We want to make sure that we check every aspect both in-game and from the CS. You can write things that haven't been written at all, or you can check things that have been written from the CS. Anything that was written in-game should be checked by someone using the CS, to make sure nothing was missed. --GK^talk2me 00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

WelcomingEdit

Matt: it's up to you, but I strongly suggest you hold off from welcoming new users right now. They're all obviously the same person just being a pain. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

I know that now but I wasn't expecting this to keep up for so long, I thought he'd get bored and stop.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 20:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

QuestionEdit

How did you get your name to come out like that when you sign ? I'd like to turn mine yellow but looking at the discussion on S'drassa's page has just confused me.--TheAlbinoOrc 18:29, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Copy this below, then go to my preferences on the top of the page, go to signature, check the box under your signature and folllow the instructions below. If you need any farthur clarifying just ask yuor specific propblem. --Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 19:02, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

• <font color=yellow>[[User:TheAlbinoOrc|TheAlbinoOrc]]</font>
• And it will look like: TheAlbinoOrc

• That may be 'too' yellow for you, you can expirement with colors if you want.

It says invalid signature check html tags.--TheAlbinoOrc 20:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, try this: {{SUBST:FC|yellow|[[User:TheAlbinoOrc|TheAlbinoOrc]]}}--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 20:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

There, it works now. Thanks !--TheAlbinoOrc 21:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Requesting Semi-protectionEdit

Please can User:Arch-Mage Matt be semi-protected for a while? For whatever reason, the page has been the target of a phenomenal amount of vandalism recently, all of which has come from new users who wouldn't be able to edit straight away if the page was protected. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

It is just Fury again. That idea of yours is looking better and better.--^Corevette₇₈₉ 20:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

He has appeared to go away for the night but if what he said was true (on the admin noticeboard) he'll be doing it for another two days, so protection is probably required, if he comes back tomorrow, and the next day... or buys whatever he is using that makes him change IP addresses.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 01:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Update on Rona Benarus/ Battlehorn CastleEdit

I was able to get Lord Kelvyn's shield back, but you were correct, she didn't "steal" it. I removed a few clothing items from Lord Kelvyn's chest (that i had placed in there with it), left the private quarters, waited an hour, and the shield appeared in my inventory. Feel free to post this bug workaround wherever appropriate. Mathiusdragoon 13:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

copyingEdit

hi i would like to copy one of your custom userboxs but want to know if it's o with you--GUM!!! 14:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Of couse it is!--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 19:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

ok thanks!--GUM!!! 19:38, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

IRCEdit

Have you ever considered downloading IRC? It would let me (and everyone else) have better contact with you. If you don't feel safe or ready to download anything, you could just use the client.We would love to have you there! --^Corevette₇₈₉ 22:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Sure... I've never paid attention to it much, could you explain it to me a little (and where to download it)--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 22:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Well I use chatzilla and I think it is the best thing ever but it is only for Firefox. There are plenty others but get on the client for now and I will link you to several.--^Corevette₇₈₉ 22:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Wait, do you have to buy it?--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Nope all of them are free as far as I know if you have Firefox you can go here and it is a free secure download.--^Corevette₇₈₉ 23:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

mentorEdit

Do you have an E-Mail listed on the site? (If not do so now before they can revert you:) I say this because I don't see one on your page--^Corevette₇₈₉ 23:23, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

It's in my little notice thing on the top; I thought no one could miss that.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 23:25, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Oops...heh I don't know how I did either...--^Corevette₇₈₉ 23:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, if you look in the menu on the left of your screen, down in the "toolbox" section, there should be an "E-mail This User" for any user who has e-mail enabled. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 00:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

GrammarEdit

It's not spelled "grammer" it's spelled "grammar". 108.1.209.56 03:13, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

It was a just typo. --Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 03:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, but I noticed it happened before, noticeably in your patroller nomination. Also it's "vandalism" not "vandilism". I'm not trolling you, just trying to help out. Gotta pay attention to this stuff if you want to be a patroller in the future. Keep up the good work. 108.1.209.56 03:29, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

AdsEdit

The ad was likely added by some bot of some sort. There is no need to add a warning, official or not, to their page as the account will be blocked. Elliot 03:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

But the guy passed a skipcatcha thing to put an outside link onto the page, could a bot do that?--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 03:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

You were right the first time, it's "Captcha". "Skipcaptcha" is the right the Patrollers and Admins have, which means they don't get Captcha checks. But getting back to your question, chances are a real live person is involved, though a bot might occasionally pass a Captcha check. It's probably a combination of both where the bot creates new accounts and posts ads on hundreds of sites and just shows the human the Captcha check. ‒ Robin Hood↝Talk 06:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

I just thought shoes wouldn't be the first thing a spammerbot would try to put on a site.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 16:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

You see them on blogs every now and then; we get them every great now and then here. Elliot 23:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Respawning CatEdit

Okay, good spot but you can stop now!

I've fixed the NPC Summary template to add people automatically. rpeh •T•C•E• 00:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. Thought that had to be done manually.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 00:28, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Just noticed - if there are any others like Blind Moth Priest‎ or Courier - they still need doing. rpeh •T•C•E• 00:28, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean other like many npcs with the same name?--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 00:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Those little Personal BoxesEdit

Okay, so, just starting out here on UESP, and i was wondering, where can you find all of those Personal Message boxes, I mean like the ones that say "This User is Knowledgable of Oblivion" or, "This User is Male" etc.? Is there a whole page of these i can find somewhere? Or am I doomed to searching for ones on user pages? Or can you make them? If you can answer these questions, please, put the link to a page on my talk page, or put in the instructions on how to make them. Thank You. (PS I asked you because you seem nice, seem to know what you're doing here on the site, and you seem to have some custom boxes on your page. --The Great Falcar 23:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, i didn't see the link on the talk page =) The Great Falcar 23:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, thanks for thinking of coming to me!--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 01:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

plz put a link i need it cuz i dont no how to do them or were to do them --alester

There should be a link in your welcome message, buthere it is just in case. Dlarsh^(T,C) 06:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

OBLIVION SKINGRAD GATEEdit

WHERE IS THE OBLIVION GATES MAIN TOWER WITH THE F`ING STONE IN SKINGRADS OBLIVION GATE 204.184.29.2SOUREROUS LINK

This doesn't go here try checking random oblivion worlds or after that the Aid For Bruma talk page. Also please don't post in all caps.--TheAlbinoOrc 18:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, it could go here, I am a Mentor. Luckily for you, I stubled upon that gate near Battlehorn Castle just yesterday. Assuming you mean Random Oblivion World 4, involved in Allies for Bruma quest, I went to the lava surrounding The Brooding Fortress (the main tower) and jumped over it... I got in the lava a little but got out on the other side, ok. Then just go around the rocks enough until you get to the main door. If you need any furthur clarifying, just ask. (although not in caps like AlbinoOrc said)--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 19:05, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

It should also be noted that waterwalking is very useful for lava.--TheAlbinoOrc 19:25, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I have tried that, I don't think it works on lava.--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 19:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't keep you from taking damage it reduces the amount of damage you take (partly because of less contact partly because you move faster).--TheAlbinoOrc 19:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

userboxsEdit

hi you made a comment on my talk page about how to make your own user boxs and i did what you said and it didn't work i tried a lot of diffrent pixels oh and this was what i put on my page {{Userbox|#001|#090|[[Image:OB OBCreature-Skeleton Guardian.jpg |45px]]|info-fc=#01|This user likes skeletons especially summond ones}}and it also won't show the pictrue just OBCreature-Skeleton Guardian.jpg it's still on my page if you want to see it--GUM!!! 12:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

You repeated the "OB" you want: |{{Userbox|#CCCCFF|#EEEEFF|[[Image:OBCreature-Skeleton Guardian.jpg |50px]]|info-fc=#07|This user likes skeletons especially summond ones}} . just replace the two and It'll work I tried it on your page.--^Corevette₇₈₉ 13:11, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

ok thanks!— Unsigned comment by GUM!!! (talk • contribs) on 3/28

Short + SweetEdit

Nice Character story, Shame Umbacano has to die at the end of his quest... or does he? (Look under "King of Nelenta" you're the one that made it xD) :) Also.. you said your character had TWO mage apprentices fallowing him Maybe I ask how :P ??--VergilSparda 16:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I will never complete that quest (Loss of two followers? What!?) if you recruit the Black Haired Female Breton Apprentice with long natural hair, you can recruit one other... an overlook by the devs (and a very nice one.)--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 01:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I think i'll try this out soon enough :D --VergilSparda 20:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The Lerr FamilyEdit

It actually isn't all that strange that Astante Lerr doesn't have auburn hair since she's his grandmother and married to Umbacano Lerr she married in to the family didn't she ?--TheAlbinoOrc 15:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I guess. :)--Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 22:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC)